Published on October 6, 2020, “The Choice: The Abortion Divide in America” by Danielle D’Souza Gill became the most important pro-life book of the past decade. If you read one book about the abortion debate, let it be this one. If you’re not yet convinced, check out our review of The Choice. After reading this book, I knew I had to sit down with the author and talk about the abortion divide in America and how pro-life activists can put their best foot forward and advocate for life.
Can you give us a brief introduction to who you are and what you do?
I’m Danielle D’Souza Gill and I am a 25 year old author who lives in New York City. I have filmed videos for PragerU, have been a Turning Point USA ambassador, and have been on various tv and radio networks including Fox News, One America, Newsmax, and Salem Radio. I am the youngest Advisory Board member of Women for Trump, a coalition of Donald J. Trump’s campaign. The Choice: The Abortion Divide in America , is my second book, and just came out this week. My passion is fighting for the unborn. My favorite thing to do in my free time is spend time with family and be outside with the sun on my face.
When did you realize your pro-life passion and how did that manifest?
When I think back to when I was in college, I remember seeing Planned Parenthood tables set up on the campus lawn, with the students working those tables bashing Trump and ardently supporting Hillary Clinton as well as the “right to choose.” While that was a small part of the pro-choice Left, when I moved to New York City after graduating from college, I couldn’t believe that Governor Cuomo (D) lit up the Freedom Tower pink to celebrate the legalization of nine month abortions without a medical reason. The fact that even Joe Biden, who has in the past painted himself as a moderate, now pushes for federal funding for abortion, forcing nuns and people who oppose abortion, to pay for other people’s abortions. This shows just how radical leading Democrats have become when it comes to abortion.
What made you decide to write this book?
I saw a need for it. I love pro-life books that tell a personal story or testimony, or dive into a specific aspect of the debate like the medical aspect of it, but I couldn’t find one book that encompassed the debate. I couldn’t find a book that really took on the most prominent pro-choice arguments and dismantled them in every chapter, in a way that was organized, fresh, current, accessible, realistic, and fun to read. I couldn’t find one book that I’d give to a friend where I’d say, “if you only read one book about abortion, if you only give the pro-life cause a chance this one time, you must read this book.” I find the Socratic method of presenting a powerful argument and then an even more powerful counterargument very persuasive, yet I couldn’t find that when it came to this topic. Since I couldn’t find that one book, I decided to take a stab at writing it.
You start the chapters with a myth and then you debunk that myth, how did you decide which myths were most important and why this set up would work best?
I chose every myth based on what I hear most often in the culture from pro-choice advocates, but I also chose some of the myths that I hear most often from peers. I address the most popular arguments we hear from the pro-choice side like “My Body, My Choice,” and “A fetus is a cluster of cells,” but I also address more unique pro-choice arguments, like, “We can’t financially support babies using the welfare state,” and “It’s the fetus’ bad luck to be aborted,” and “I’m personally pro-life but can’t impose my views on another person, and “What if the babies that would have been aborted grow up in horrible homes?” I wanted to take on the most prominent arguments, as well as their strongest ones, and start from the position of a pro-choicer. I don’t assume the reader is already pro-life, or holds any pro-life assumptions.
You didn’t sugarcoat a thing in this book and spare no details about abortion procedure or harsh realities, why is this important?
So often we hear the word “abortion,” used, and we talk about “abortion arguments,” but don’t actually say what abortion is. How does it work? What is involved? I don’t show any horrific photos in the book, but I describe the different types of abortion procedures. It makes people uncomfortable, but it should make us uncomfortable. If the pro-choice side says this is simply “a healthcare procedure,” then why can’t we talk about what it actually is?
They say don’t judge a book by its cover, but your cover makes me want to read it with the aesthetically pleasing cover art. What was your design process like for that and what was the meaning you want to send through the art?
My book is cotton candy pink with bright pink and red detailing on it. This was intentional. Planned Parenthood has used the bright pink look for their branding for years in order to make it seem like “they’re for women.” But we know this couldn’t be further from the truth, so I wanted to take back the color pink. The pro-life movement loves both women and baby girls, and fights for the next generation of women, so I thought it would be the perfect fit for the book.
As far as the cover’s imagery, I wanted it to be a bit abstract, almost like a painting, where you can interpret it. I didn’t want to replicate the traditional pro-life pamphlet that has the silhouette of a pregnant woman with a baby inside the womb. That has been seen many times before and sometimes leads someone to think, “Been there, done that,” or “I know what’s in it already.” I wanted to draw the undecided person in, the person who might be turned off by traditional pro-life branding, to say, “Hmm… I’m curious about this. I want to read more.”
There are many citations in this book indicating a lot of research, how long did it take you to write and research this book?
It took me quite some time to write this book—about 1 year! In order to take on such a large task, I knew I had to break it up into chunks I could tackle. I would describe the process as three parts. First, I came up with the idea and did research to supply me with the ammo for each chapter. Second, I transitioned to the writing phase, which I was able to do more swiftly because I had my research at my fingertips. Third, I went into a deep editing phase, which was helpful to refine my work. And now I am in a post-writing phase, which is the release phase. I hope my book reaches many people to change hearts and minds on this important topic.
One of the most important things you address is the “well you’re only pro-life because God or your religion told you to be,” why does this to be debunked?
Sometimes pro-choicers say, “you’re only pro-life because your religion told you to be.” This had to be debunked. Yes, the Judeo-Christian worldview values life, especially contrary to many pagan practices, but we can all be pro-life just by looking at the science. Pro-choicers reject science by rejecting embryology, medicine, and technological developments that clearly show us life in the womb when a woman is pregnant. We can see the baby with the naked in an ultrasound and we can hear the baby’s heartbeat a few weeks into pregnancy. Look at the body parts that are disposed of after an abortion. It actually takes more “faith” to believe there isn’t life in the womb, because science and medical technology so clearly shows us that there is.
You spent a lot of time dissecting every argument about Planned Parenthood. Why is this so important to you?
My chapter on Planned Parenthood is one of my longest chapters because there is so much to say about their organization. I expose their racist history as well as look at how they still operate in the same modus operandi of racism today, carrying out their mass killing in minority communities. I also debunk the myth that they like to push, which is that abortions only make up 3% of their services, when in reality they are the largest abortion provider in the country and perform hundreds of thousands of abortions per year.
You mention in the book that Planned Parenthood has called you out by name. Can you explain your experience with that?
Planned Parenthood came out criticizing the women on the Advisory Board of “Women for Trump,” which is a coalition of Donald J Trump’s campaign, and I am the youngest woman on the board. I am a proud pro-life advocate and Planned Parenthood hates nothing more than when women are pro-life. They love to paint pro-lifers as groups of angry old men, so when they see happy young women who are proudly pro-life, they get very angry. The reality is that the pro-life movement is made up of incredible women who are thought leaders, businesswomen, moms, daughters, nieces, grandmothers, and game-changers who will impact the future of America. We fight for all grown women and little women, in and out of the womb.
What encouraging words do you have for young pro-life activists just getting started?
Offer to debate and discuss the issue when appropriate, but be prepared for the storm. The pro-choice Left will hate your guts because you embody what they despise. Pro-choice advocates often won’t debate you because they know they’ll lose, so they resort to vicious attacks. They hope that in doing this, you will cower in a corner and give up. Don’t. Life is worth fighting for.
What is the intended take-away from this book?
We are at a crossroads in America. We can either choose to continue living in the culture of death we have now, or be part of creating a culture of life.
The Left is now desperately looking for ways to smear President Trump’s recent nominee, Amy Coney Barrett, all because they fear Roe v. Wade is in danger. It might seem strange that they feel so strongly about Roe—But the Left is desperate because abortion is at the center of the values they hold most dear.
My book, The Choice: The Abortion Divide in America, dives into not only debunking pro-choice arguments, but also looks at what America might look like after Roe.
Where can someone find your book?
You can find it for sale from all of the major retailers—Amazon, Walmart, Barnes & Noble, Christian Book etc. It’s also available on Audible if you prefer to listen to books, and on Apple Books , Google Play, and other places if you prefer to read e-books.
Can we expect another book from you in the future?
Yes! I am just getting started. Stay tuned for what’s next.
Where can someone find you on social media?
Get your copy of The Choice by Danielle D’Souza Gill here.
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